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Okay, just a fan of following Discord forum projects myself.
If you ever desire creating one from this project...do let me know.
Also, I got permission to update the romhacking page for this hack.
Should now have all of the current information posted now.
Oh and I have played the hack a bit. 
Seems that the starting area enemies are a bit stronger ?

Hey there, hope you are having a great day !
So being unable to play MTG in person...I have shifted to playing online.
Currently trying to learn how to play the "Commander" format
And need some help/feedback with a deck I am building.
Below is my current build :

Decklist

// Commanders Arahbo, Roar of the World Kaheera, the Orphanguard // Lands (30): Animal Sanctuary Arctic Treeline Elfhame Palace Evolving Wilds Forest Fortified Village Gingerbread Cabin Idyllic Grange Llanowar Reborn Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers Oran-Rief, the Vastwood Plains Scattered Groves Selesnya Guildgate Snow-Covered Forest Snow-Covered Plains Sunpetal Grove Temple of Plenty Terramorphic Expanse Thornglint Bridge Turntimber Grove // Creatures (30) --CMC 1 (8) Loam Lion Sacred Cat Savannah Lions Steppe Lynx Jungle Lion Pouncing Jaguar Scythe Leopard Wild Nacatl --CMC 2 (12) Watchers of the Dead Adorned Pouncer Leonin Arbiter Leonin Lightscribe Lost Leonin Leonin Relic-Warder Leonin Skyhunter Initiate's Companion Longtusk Cub Bronzehide Lion Fleecemane Lion Qasali Pridemage --CMC 3 (8) King of the Pride Brimaz, King of Oreskos Skyhunter Skirmisher Feline Sovereign Pride Sovereign Prowling Serpopard Mirri, Weatherlight Duelist Qasali Ambusher --CMC 5 (2) Regal Caracal Qasali Slingers // Monster-Buff (14) --CMC 1 (3) Authority of the Consuls Gryff's Boon Ethereal Armor --CMC 2 (7) Blind Obedience Rally the Ranks Shared Triumph Bower Passage Primal Rage Season of Growth Swiftfoot Boots --CMC 3 (3) Curse of Predation Rhonas's Monument Bow of Nylea --CMC 4 (1) Felidar Retreat // Artifact/Enchantment-hate (8) --CMC 1 (2) Fragmentize Natural State --CMC 2 (6) Revoke Existence Broken Bond Return to Nature Tribute to the Wild Nature's Chant Sundering Growth

// Land-Search (7) --CMC 1 (5) Flower/Flourish Renegade Map Attune with Aether Sylvan Tutor Safewright Quest --CMC 2 (2) Nature's Lore Three Visits // Mana-Rocks (2) --CMC 2 (2) Pillar of Origins Talisman of Unity // Planeswalker (3) --CMC 3 (1) Vivien, Champion of the Wilds --CMC 4 (1) Ajani, Adversary of Tyrants --CMC 5 (1) Vivien, Monster's Advocate // Planeswalker-Hate (1) --CMC 6 (1) Hour of Revelation // Extra (4) --CMC 1 (1) Warriors' Lesson --CMC 2 (1) Life's Legacy --CMC 3 (2) Hunter's Insight Descendants' Path

First off, very relieved to know that you and the other forum members have survived the first wave of Covid-19.
Second, excited to check out this new build.
Third, will you be updating your information over at romhacking :
https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/357/

Again, glad that the site/forum is back up !
Would it be possible to make a "Discord" for this project ?
Just in case the site has to go down again.

Hey there, hope you all have been well !
First off, the Worksheet for Final Fantasy Legends II has been very helpful in learning how to edit the game.
What I noticed this week, is that with the Windows 10 version of MS-Excel
You are unable to open the ".XLS" or ".ODS" file.
Instead it says that the file is corrupt and refuses to open the file.
So what I have attached here is a ".ZIP" file, when extracted,
Contains the same FFL2-Worksheet
But in formats that the latest MS-Excel software can read/open.

@Den 

You are welcome to update the "Utility Files for Download" sections here :

https://ieants.cc/ffl2/ffl2.php 

With any of these files...rather it might be easier to create a ".7z" file with every format of the Worksheet file in it ?
Again, thank you and I hope this is helpful to someone !

@Den 

You are really amazing, been up since 7:00am this morning researching ".TBL" files.
So I have been using "HxD" Hex Editor version 2.4.0.0 (x86-64)
And it has a column named "Decoded Text"
Well, to me it looks like a bunch of "gibberish" to me so I have always ignored it.

Never used a translator program before, but "WindHex32" seemed a bit similar at first.
Opened the file like normal, but when I initially opened the table file it would not recognize it.
It took way longer than expected to figure out that I has saved it as a "Text Document"
Thankfully, all I had to do was open it and save it as a ".tbl" file.

But gosh, this recommended program is really cool.
Now that I have imported the table file, I can see the Decoded Text !!
So when I jump to Offset :  0003EEC0
I can see the start of the monster name "Fungus"
Again, you really are my hero when it comes to things like this !
I plan to play around with this over the weekend
And once it get this down, will bug you about how to edit Items/Skill properties.
Thanks again

@Den

Whew...been a rough week  >_<"
Tornados are no joke and have power again.
Anyhow, make have to pick your brain on how to edit these "Heart Icons" later

Also, looks like the game had a few updates since I was last online !
Looking forward to how Monster-Meat works with mutants now.
So it looks like Mutants gain stats upon eating meat
Would they also be able to learn a set skill/trait with this method ?

Very happy to see that you are sharing your progress with your hack !
It brings lots of excitement and joy when I notice the changelog has been updated.

33C50 Meat, item drop chance / gold drop level
33D50 Moves selection / DS level


Set the respective bit to enable that feature. 80+40+20=E0

Oh my...this really clears up a lot of confusion/uncertainty I had !
So to test this example, let's use the first Meat-Boss of the game "BabyWyrm" -- A2 (0x33CB9)

The first bit is the "Meat, Item Drop Chance" (Ax)
While the second bit is the "Gold Drop Level" (x2)

For the first bit, the combination can be :

0+0+0 = 0
0+0+2 = 2
0+4+2 = 6
0+4+0 = 4
8+0+0 = 8
8+0+2 = A
8+4+0 = C
8+4+2 = E

Because "BabyWyrm" has the 'A2' values
It means that the first and third statement are true
So it drops meat only 20% of the time.

With that said, if someone wants to make "BabyWyrm" drop meat 100% of the time
That offset value can be changed to "E2"
Since that would make all three statements true.

I hope I understand this correctly, will try and test it out this weekend.
If you notice that my thinking is incorrect, do let me know and even correct me.
Really want to experiment with a new hack with this information.

Yeah, awesome to see that you are looking more into the party monster growth mechanic !
I tried my best to balance this when I was learning this game.
So does the DS level of monster meat effect what a monster evolves into ?
It took a while for me to get the "Meat-Drop" and "Item-Drop" enemies to feel just right.
Tried to give enemies attacks that made since with the way there sprites looked  ^_^"

Also, really nice to hear you are giving monster classes their own personality !
And yes...I sort of gave up on monster meat for the first world.
No matter what combination was eaten...the monster would always be a bit weaker.

Again, very interested in learning your process once you have finished tweaking the hack.
Still a few things I want to learn from you and experiment with !

@Den

Awesome friend, looking forward to seeing the Submitted News post on the front page !
Also, I am sure you know, it seems like Final Fantasy Legend II is becoming more and more popular in the speed running community.
So I do hope more people reach out and give feedback on your hack.

Awesome work Den, very happy to see an official topic for this hack !

First question...how did you go about editing the dialog in the game ?
That was one of the things I wanted to attempt with my project
But was a bit lost on how to do.

Second...I still have the game data worksheets you shared with me when I was learning about this game. Unsure if I read correctly, but have they been update with addition information ?

Third...how did you edit enemy names and items/skills ?

Forth, and more of a follow up...how did you change to properties of items ? I think I remember how to change how many uses a item has. But I have noticed you have change if an item is single target, group target, all target, and even the element (etc). I did want to play around with improving some of the skills in the game, but did not know how to get started.

Fifth, and will end questions here...the new robot party member has a new sprite. Very interested to learn how you imported or created a new sprite for the hack. 

That is all for now, will play the game some more today and give you some feedback. 

Aww...that is one part of fixed encounters that I have not been able to figure out.
Like in the Odin fight, you can get a meat drop or an item drop (since you have a mix of enemies)
But for one-on-one boss battles, trying to see why those final two bosses are flagged for meat drops upon defeat.
If you are able to discover anything, I would be very grateful to hear it ! 

Hello there, welcome to the roaring 20's !!
Today I have noticed the Final Fantasy II hack "neoFFL2" has updated to version 5.200
And was wondering if it's creator could update the information on romhacking.net ?
I believe the last update can be found here :

http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/357/

Under the "Submission" tab at the top and "Submit News"
Should let more fans know that the hack has been updated.
Again, very excited to check out this update and give feedback !!

@Den

Thanks, you are the best !!
So I guess HP is just random then ?
Anyhow, I just submitted my hack on the romhacking site.
It may take 24~48 hours before it is visible and such.
I could not have made this level of progress
On this project without you patience to teach me.
Again, you have my thanks and I hope you are able to check it out !

@Den

Hello again, I just finish my second run of the game
And made a lot of changes through out both play throughs.
While it has been a blast testing thing out
I am currently debating if I want to do a little more editing with the monsters.
With the latest edits, it should take 4~5 hours to beat the game instead of 2~3 hours.
Going to take this next week to review a few things
And then release what I have !!
Again, thanks for helping me get started on this project ^_^"

@Den

Awesome, thank you so much for the heads up !!
Okay, so I am currently working on changing a few of these mini-bosses now.
About the Dragon-Race bosses...so the faster you dragon
The more mini-bosses you fight ?

I believe that the first one is "Adamant"
And the next one should be "Ghast"...but it looks like only a "Tortoise" encounter triggers.

Also, it appears you can run from this battle and still get the magi.
Will look more into your examples on how to set a "no run/boss battle" flag
Or even some way to repoint this Dragon-Race encounter to "Ghast" 

Well, once I get these mini-boss battles finished
I will give the human/mutant growth rates another try.
Still a bit unsure how the values and offsets calculate
But will do a little testing and then release what I have.
Also, at that point...would you be available to test the game out and give me some feedback ?

@Den

Back home now (was away for about a week)
Okay, so I have just finalized my Shop edits
Which took a little while with how the Offsets are ordered
But really happy to have that part done.

So next, I will look over your notes on the Treasure Chests
And try to start from there !
Hmm, so from Offset 0x1C8EF ~ 0x1F8F4
Would be the 'Cure Potion' in North Cave ?
I see the Hex : 80 00 2B E7 1D F9
And 1D would be the Item ID for 'Cure Potion'
Can you break down what the Hex value 80 00 2B E7 is doing ?

Hmm, encounters still seem tough to understand.
So for Offset 0x36C70 ~ 0x36C74
I see the Hex : FF FE 00 60 E1
So if the first three Hex are monster IDs
FF = Arsenal
FE = Apollo
OO = Fungus
For the Hex 60 & E1
Can you go in a little more detail about 'encounters' and 'group sizes' ?

Thanks in advance, once I clear these two hurtles I will be ready to a final test and release this hack !

@Den

Morning, still working away at this !
Okay, so I have figured out how to change which skills Mutants learn at each DS Level encounter.
Also, know understand how the shop items are programmed and how to edit them.

So, will need a little help with the following :

--Encounters

From your encounter page :
https://ieants.cc/ffl2/encounter.php
I am trying to understand how it works.
Can you go into a explanation or example of how the group or boss encounters work or even programmed in the game ?
I have been looking through the Excel file, but I am at a loss of how the Offsets and Hex values work with each other.

--Treasures

From your awesome Maps page :
https://ieants.cc/ffl2/maps.php
You do an excellent job of displaying where each treasure chest is located and what it's contents are.
However, when going through the Offsets where the treasures are located
I am having difficult understanding how the Hex values and Offsets relate to the treasure location.
Can you give me an example Offset range and explain what the Hex values mean regarding that treasure location ?

Again, I hope you and your family has been able to stay warm during the deep freeze we have been having.
And hope you have better weather over this super bowl weekend.
Looking forward to hearing back from you soon !!

@Den

Gosh, I am really looking into upgrading to a 4K monitor/TV.
I know 8K is out now...but not a lot of media can display 8K.
Thanks, for the heads up
Those are new sites for me.
I think MTG-Arena should have had the update to support 4K monitors in the latest update (could be wrong tho')
Looking to update my motherboard (and other parts)
Before making the jump to 4K or 8K.

@Den

Awesome, it sounds like I am really doing this !!
Okay, so now I have correctly located :
-- Human M's starting items Offset
-- Human M's base/starting Hp, Str, Agl, Mana, Def

Question #1,

Can you explain a bit more about "Unused space in the same memory bank" ?
I will google and research this a bit more, in the mean time.
Very interested in giving party members and enemy monsters more skills/attacks. 

Question #2,

On the Excel sheet tab "Monster"
What does the values in the "Type/#Skills" column represent ?

Question #3,

I think I have found the offsets for the "human, mutant growth rates"
But a bit confused on how to interpret how the hex values are entered.
Under the "Magic" tab I can see the "Stat Up Rate"
Can you explain what these values are
Or rather what they represent ?
I am having problems understanding the math behind them.
Again, thanks for taking the time to assist me with this issues.
I am very happy to have found this site
And it is nice to learn something new each day !

**EDIT**

I think I have found what is up from my earlier question #5
On the excel sheet tab 'Monster'
Column K is marked as 'Skills List'
Human M's value is listed as '7E7F'
Which looks to be the values from
Offset 0x378E8 = 7F and Offset 0x378E9 = 7E

Question #4,

Does Offset 0x378E8 ~ 0x378E9 contain the range/pointers
From where the game reads that character's starting items/skills ?

Question #5,

If I change these HEX values on these offsets
Will the game read the values from another location ?

@Den

Oh man...I think I got a part, but will need you to verify
Starting to get a feel for your Excel sheet
First question, in a Hex Editor would this be correct ?

**Human M
Offset -- 0x37E7F
Long Sword
Offset -- 37E7F
Hex -- 01
Bronze Armor
Offset -- 37E80
Hex -- 35

**Human F
Offset -- 0x37E81
Rapier Sword
Offset -- 37E81
Hex -- 0F
Bronze Armor
Offset -- 37E82
Hex -- 35

Question 2, if this is correct
Is it possible to add more items or starting abilities to these characters ?
And if so, how would I add more with out erasing someone else's items ?

Question 3, where can I locate the starting stats (HP, STR, etc) for Human M ?


**EDIT**

Okay, trying to find the Offsets for Stats
Am I looking in the right place ?

Fungus ID = 0
Offset -- 0x36F80
Type/#Skills = 20
Offset -- 36F80 ~ 36F81 (read backwards)
Hp = 45
Offset -- 36F82 ~ 36F83 (read backwards)
Str = 5
Offset -- 36F84
Agl = 3
Offset -- 36F85
Mana = 5
Offset -- 36F86
Def = 6
Offset -- 36F87

Question 4, if this is correct
What do Offsets 0x36F88 ~ 0x36f8B do...or rather what are they used for ?

**EDIT 2**

Man, work hard since the break through !!
Can you check to see if these Offsets are correct ?

Human M
Offset -- 0x378E0
Type/#Skills = 01
Offset -- 378E0 ~ 378E1 (Backwards)
Hp = 59
Offset -- 378E2 - 378E3 (Backwards)
Str = 6
Offset -- 378E4
Agl = 5
Offset -- 378E5
Mana = 3
Offset -- 378E6
Def = 3
Offset -- 378E7

Question 5, Offset 0x378E8 = 7F and Offset 0x378E9 = 7E
What do these Offsets do/represent ?
I am really feeling it...but these two Offsets are a mystery to me

@Den

Thanks again for the swift reply !
Cool, I will take the ROM file and open it with the HxD program.
So HEX represents 16 values (0 ~ F)
And the '0x' shortens the 16 values ?
Like if I see 0x1234, it would be the same as 0000000000001234 ?
Okay, so for you example, the start would be 0x37980 and the end is 0x37EB4
Inside this range of data would be where the 'monster abilities' are listed ?
So the skills/attacks would then be under the ''Weapon" tab ?
Hmm...so the range is 0x37980 ~ 37EB4
And, from the "Monster" tab, Human M's skill list has a value of 7E7F
So 0x7E7F is really 0x37E7F ?
And would 0x37E7F be where Human M's equipment/skills are located ?
Again, thanks for taking the time to explain...I am learning so much in each exchange !!

@Den

Aww...well it is nice to find someone else who is into the game.

People mainly play Cardfight Vanguard and Pokémon TCG at my locals.

Oh snap, so you make cards for wizards !?.

Like do you drawn them or decide what the cards do ?

I feel that, a few years ago I got into MTGO  (best 10 bucks I spent at the time)

It was really cool only spending pennies for cards.

I got to do a lot of testing before switching to paper.

Currently I am giving MTG-Arena a shot

It looks and sounds nice !!

Though it is a bit more tricky to get cards.

I would still recommend you try out arena for at least a day...people seem to really talk bad about it for some reason.

But yeah, I would like to pay you in a standard match some time.

I am planning on checking out the sneak peak this weekend !!

@Den

Oh yeah ?

The user "amuseum" seems to have posted all of the information :

https://www.romhacking.net/community/956/

But thanks to them...I am here now and get to chat with it's creator !!

It looks like the last update was version 3.003 from back in 2007.

Would you be open to the idea of posting the updated information to that site ?

Was able to register today !!

Really liking the website / forum.

Will you be updating the romhacking page with the latest version of the FFL2 hack :

https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/357/